His house is a dirty bachelor pad...

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Hello all- am relatively new to this website but have been seperated for 18 months..all thankfully fairly amicable until few months ago when we had to make a financial decision and the two kids and i moved out and left him with family home- this was fine-much prefer my new house- but as the mortgage was huge on our old home a close friend of his moved in with him and since then they have been living a bachelor boy lifestyle(both in their 30s)which means the state of house has declined to a point where its unfit for the kids to stay ( broken toilet and taps ,no hoover, mess everywhere, fridge is filthy, they smoke in the house though not while kids stay over and when he doesnt have the kids he's out getting drunk and behaving like an 18 year old and I'll admit a slight jealousy here that he is able to do that but that honestly it is not the root of my complaint)
we've had the same old row over his cleaning standards over and over - he doesnt seem to see what i mean- to the point this week where i had to say enough is enough you're not seeing the kids until you sort the house out-get things fixed-hire a cleaner etc..i really expected him to turn up at ours with a flourish of cleaning products and promises to change (and mean it) instead he's rung twice to ask in a pitiful way when he can see the kids ( if they were begging to see him I'd never say no but sadly the truth is they don't really mention him) So now what to do? I guess he's waiting for me to crack under pressure of school hols but my resolve is firm and I'd rather have a nervous breakdown than go back on my word.
Sorry for such long rant...I'm sure I'm not the first on this topic..any advice gratefully received..thanks.

Oops, Kate asked me to read

Oops, Kate asked me to read her reply becuase she was worried she'd been rude.  I promised to be the voice of reason!  Problem is - she's right, she might have been a bit blunt, but she's right.  One of the hardest lessons to learn about splitting up in the early days is that you no longer have any influence over your ex anymore (it works both ways which is an upside!).  I remember finding myself thinking about the decisions my ex was making - even little ones about how he could organsie his day to fit in various jobs, seeing children etc, but that was because i was used to thinking like that, and actually once I realised that it was his problem to sort out how he was going to organise a day or make decisions about any other aspect of his life, it all became much easier.  It's a sad moment when you realise you really are leading seperate lives, and that means not being able to influence lifestyle.  To me that really did feel like the proper end of the relationship, but it was from that point on that I think I started to move on as I realised that if I didn't have any influence over his life, I too was free to be independant and to build a lifestyle that suited me.  I think you need to do the same. 

Mess isn't dangerous (Kate lives in chaos and that might explain part of her jumping off the deep end as the thought of her ex sayng sorry I'm withholding the children until you mend the tap, and sort this chaos out is TOTALLY UNIMAGINABLE!).  Let the children go, know their dad, know mess and know you and how you live and they'll grow up with 2 loving parents whith no bad blood between them (which makes a MASSIVE difference to how children surive this).  They'll also experience  2 different lifestyles.  I can't see what's wrong with that.  You're setting a dangerous precident by withholding children because you don;t approve of his house because then it becomes perfectly OK for him to withhold them from you when you do something he doesn't approve of, such as you getting a new boyfriend etc.  I'd go for a drink with your ex, or have him round for a chat and apologise to him and start with a clean slate - perhaps agreeing what it is that you both do have a say in, which will be things like education, etc.  might help and then you both know what's off bounds which will protect you from his interference too.   Lots and lots of luck, Emily

PS you'll feel better about the fun he's having when you've jsut let him go and focus on your own life rather than his.

In the cold light of day ,

In the cold light of day , read your letter again . Amicable separation , in a house you prefer, a close friend moves in ( not a stranger) , you are jealous of the free fun bit , he wants to see the children and you would rather have a nervous brteakdown than go back on your word and break under the pressure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all beacuse he has no hoover a broken tap , mess , dirt and smokes.

Get a grip if the house is unsafe that is one thing if it is a messy , cahotic batchelor pad with smoking , no cleaner and broken taps , there is nothing you can do about that . That is the way he choses to live and is beyond your sphere of influence.

I really do not like that you are punishing him by not letting him have the children during the holiday , they need to see him , he wants to see them and that is the most important thing. why not help him sort a system out. ?????????

I really think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill and yes you are the first person in my knowledge to withhold access because a house is messy filthy and not up to your standards.

sorry to be so frank , but I suggest you arrange some sort of visit before the holidays end to reiterate , unless your children are not safe and there is nothing in your letter that suggests this is the case I would backtrack fast .

Emily you had better pipe up

 

Kate